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Саша Фурівспросил перевод 5 лет назад
Как перевести? (ru-en)

отказ от одноразовой пластиковой посуды

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  1. 1.

    move away from using (disposable) plastic tableware

    Перевод добавил ⁌ ULY ⁍
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    a (personal) ban on (disposable) plastic tableware.

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  3. 3.

    a refusal to use (disposable) plastic tableware

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  4. 4.

    doing away with (disposable) plastic tableware

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  5. 5.

    refusal to use single-use plastic tableware

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Обсуждение (53)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

a ban on (disposable) plastic utensils (??)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Grumbler, ERADICATION is used for something damaging - isn’t it a bit strong here? Also, if you say “plastic tableware,” you won’t have to list all those things separately 😉

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Why is eradication stronger than ban? At least it's more general, i.e., can be achieved in different ways, not necessarily by ban.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

a refusal of usage is ment here ( for a future event). Don't think eradication or ban are suitable in this case.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

"отказ" sounds like something voluntary

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Because ERADICATE means to eliminate something from the ROOTS (-rad-). You would eradicate a nazi movement in your country, or any type of hate, for example.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Aha!

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Sasha, BAN is actually not bad. For example, a national catering company could call a ban on plastic tableware at the events they serve.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Yes, Grumbler, in that case they view plastic as a toxic material and are calling to remove it completely from circulation. I wasn’t thinking that big, but I guess that’s possible.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

It just seems to me that if ERADICATION were intended, Russian would use another word besides отказ.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

is this variant possible to be used: the refusal of disposable plastic dishes and kitchen utensils. ???

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

an why parenthesis? There are various types of plastic long-term kitchenware that don't have to be banned/eradicated.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Not competely. Only disposable

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

I agree that eradication = искоренение, but unfortunately there isn't good English word for отказ

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

stop using/usage ?

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

(1) To the English mind, PLASTIC more or less implies disposable. The same with PAPER plates and cups. (2) stop using = ban on...

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Sasha, “the refusal of...” in this context doesn’t sound good.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Maybe if you guys put this statement into a broader context for me, I could translate it with more insight.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

искоренение! What a great word! Thank you))

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

(1) - possibly for tableware
(2) - I disagree. Without any ban many supermarkets voluntarily stop using some types of plastic packaging

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

When supermarkets tell their associates and employees they’ll no longer be using something voluntarily, they announce a company-wide ban on that thing. Maybe you’re reading too much into the word BAN.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

BAN just means NO MORE

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Personally I prefer - a refusal to use (disposable) plastic tableware :)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

That’s a good option. And you could even say “A PERSONAL BAN ON (disposable) plastic tableware” if it’s something you’ve personally decided to implement in your own life for whatever reason.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Also, I think PLASTIC UTENSILS is also a very popular term.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Again, UTENSILS can be long-term, not disposable. Bowls, containers, trays etc. Tableware is better in this respect.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

I think you’re mistaking UTENSILS with TABLEWARE. The former is forks, knives and spoons, the latter is dishes, bowls, glasses, cups, for the most part.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

UTENSILS are usually disposable, where TABLEWARE can be made of hard plastic and be reusable.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

What's cutlery then?

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

The first thing that pops into our minds when we hear UTENSILS is fork, knife and spoon.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

I only used TABLEWARE because you included plates and cups.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

I don't like "ban" either, as in my case the organizers of future event just no longer want to use plastic tableware and that's it. No one has banned their company, this is solely a simple desire to change their usual type of tableware for the event ;-)

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Yes, you are right. There are some other items, but mainly knives, spoons and forks. However, there are very few plates and cups, if any

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Sasha, in that case, they have BANNED plastic from their future events. You guys are reading too much into this word. It’s not as drastic as you seem to think it. It just means that they’ve suspended the use of plastic in the future. If you want to make it sound “nicer,” you can say that the company has “moved away from the use of plastic at their hosted events.”

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад
I only used TABLEWARE because you included plates and cups.

That's my point!
Посуда = тарелки, чашки, блюдца, ложки, вилки, ножи - и многое другое

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Grumbler, I can only give you my perspective and reaction to words as a native. I’m not here to dupe anyone. As with you and Russian, I already know what these words mean and how they’re actually used BEFORE you remind me 😉

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

So if the caterers are referring to everything on the table, it would be TABLEWARE, if they mean knifes, forks and spoons, then UTENSILS.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

TABLEWARE it is then - if we use a single word.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

👍🏼

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

AVOID is too weak. It means that they’ll use it here and there, but prefer not to.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

+++Elena (good one!)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Sasha, SINGLE-USE is good

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

And you want it or not, to me the word "ban or - запрет " as a noun has (by default) negative root-cause and might be a preventive action in order to avoid something bad, it does not sound like an ordinary "refusal-отказ" to use something. For instance they made up their mind to switch to some cheaper/more expensive type of tableware and no one forced them to do this). The word "refusal or - отказ" doesn't necessarily mean a strict prohibition or danger to the owner of the process( catering company in our case) as opposed to "ban - запрет" .
P.S. Yeah, you may call me a nitpicker now :)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

I won’t call you a nitpicker. We’re all here to learn)) In that case, I would go with MOVE AWAY FROM THE USE OF... In my opinion, especially after what you just wrote, REFUSAL is a very categorical and cold word. MOVE AWAY FROM just implies that you have decided against the (former) use of plastics.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Alright then, thanks to all of you ;-)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

A pleasure))

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

And thank you for such an interesting question!

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 лет назад

Yeap! Wait for more :)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 5 лет назад

With pleasure!

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