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Саша Фурівспросил перевод 5 years ago
Как перевести? (ru-en)

отказ от одноразовой пластиковой посуды

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  1. 1.

    move away from using (disposable) plastic tableware

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    a (personal) ban on (disposable) plastic tableware.

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    a refusal to use (disposable) plastic tableware

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    doing away with (disposable) plastic tableware

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    refusal to use single-use plastic tableware

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⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

a ban on (disposable) plastic utensils (??)

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Grumbler, ERADICATION is used for something damaging - isn’t it a bit strong here? Also, if you say “plastic tableware,” you won’t have to list all those things separately 😉

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Why is eradication stronger than ban? At least it's more general, i.e., can be achieved in different ways, not necessarily by ban.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

a refusal of usage is ment here ( for a future event). Don't think eradication or ban are suitable in this case.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

"отказ" sounds like something voluntary

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Because ERADICATE means to eliminate something from the ROOTS (-rad-). You would eradicate a nazi movement in your country, or any type of hate, for example.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Aha!

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Sasha, BAN is actually not bad. For example, a national catering company could call a ban on plastic tableware at the events they serve.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Yes, Grumbler, in that case they view plastic as a toxic material and are calling to remove it completely from circulation. I wasn’t thinking that big, but I guess that’s possible.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

It just seems to me that if ERADICATION were intended, Russian would use another word besides отказ.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

is this variant possible to be used: the refusal of disposable plastic dishes and kitchen utensils. ???

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

an why parenthesis? There are various types of plastic long-term kitchenware that don't have to be banned/eradicated.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Not competely. Only disposable

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

I agree that eradication = искоренение, but unfortunately there isn't good English word for отказ

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

stop using/usage ?

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

(1) To the English mind, PLASTIC more or less implies disposable. The same with PAPER plates and cups. (2) stop using = ban on...

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Sasha, “the refusal of...” in this context doesn’t sound good.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Maybe if you guys put this statement into a broader context for me, I could translate it with more insight.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

искоренение! What a great word! Thank you))

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

(1) - possibly for tableware
(2) - I disagree. Without any ban many supermarkets voluntarily stop using some types of plastic packaging

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

When supermarkets tell their associates and employees they’ll no longer be using something voluntarily, they announce a company-wide ban on that thing. Maybe you’re reading too much into the word BAN.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

BAN just means NO MORE

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Personally I prefer - a refusal to use (disposable) plastic tableware :)

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

That’s a good option. And you could even say “A PERSONAL BAN ON (disposable) plastic tableware” if it’s something you’ve personally decided to implement in your own life for whatever reason.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Also, I think PLASTIC UTENSILS is also a very popular term.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Again, UTENSILS can be long-term, not disposable. Bowls, containers, trays etc. Tableware is better in this respect.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

I think you’re mistaking UTENSILS with TABLEWARE. The former is forks, knives and spoons, the latter is dishes, bowls, glasses, cups, for the most part.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

UTENSILS are usually disposable, where TABLEWARE can be made of hard plastic and be reusable.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

What's cutlery then?

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

The first thing that pops into our minds when we hear UTENSILS is fork, knife and spoon.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

I only used TABLEWARE because you included plates and cups.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

I don't like "ban" either, as in my case the organizers of future event just no longer want to use plastic tableware and that's it. No one has banned their company, this is solely a simple desire to change their usual type of tableware for the event ;-)

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Yes, you are right. There are some other items, but mainly knives, spoons and forks. However, there are very few plates and cups, if any

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Sasha, in that case, they have BANNED plastic from their future events. You guys are reading too much into this word. It’s not as drastic as you seem to think it. It just means that they’ve suspended the use of plastic in the future. If you want to make it sound “nicer,” you can say that the company has “moved away from the use of plastic at their hosted events.”

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago
I only used TABLEWARE because you included plates and cups.

That's my point!
Посуда = тарелки, чашки, блюдца, ложки, вилки, ножи - и многое другое

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Grumbler, I can only give you my perspective and reaction to words as a native. I’m not here to dupe anyone. As with you and Russian, I already know what these words mean and how they’re actually used BEFORE you remind me 😉

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

So if the caterers are referring to everything on the table, it would be TABLEWARE, if they mean knifes, forks and spoons, then UTENSILS.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

TABLEWARE it is then - if we use a single word.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

👍🏼

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

AVOID is too weak. It means that they’ll use it here and there, but prefer not to.

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

+++Elena (good one!)

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Sasha, SINGLE-USE is good

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

And you want it or not, to me the word "ban or - запрет " as a noun has (by default) negative root-cause and might be a preventive action in order to avoid something bad, it does not sound like an ordinary "refusal-отказ" to use something. For instance they made up their mind to switch to some cheaper/more expensive type of tableware and no one forced them to do this). The word "refusal or - отказ" doesn't necessarily mean a strict prohibition or danger to the owner of the process( catering company in our case) as opposed to "ban - запрет" .
P.S. Yeah, you may call me a nitpicker now :)

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

I won’t call you a nitpicker. We’re all here to learn)) In that case, I would go with MOVE AWAY FROM THE USE OF... In my opinion, especially after what you just wrote, REFUSAL is a very categorical and cold word. MOVE AWAY FROM just implies that you have decided against the (former) use of plastics.

Саша Фурівдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

Alright then, thanks to all of you ;-)

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

A pleasure))

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

And thank you for such an interesting question!

⦿ ULYдобавил комментарий 5 years ago

With pleasure!

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