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Camilla Mandaevaспросил перевод 6 years ago
Как перевести? (ru-en)

он не получит работу,если не представит рекомендации

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    He won’t get this job if he doesn’t provide references.

    Перевод добавил Anastasia K
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Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 years ago

Ой, здесь о рекомендациях. Куда я смотрела((

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

это уж точно...

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 years ago

Грамблер, это я о предыдущих переводах. Я почему-то увидела «резюме»)

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

что-то вы их очень долго исправляли.
Пять минут назад были все еще "предыдущие"

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Regardless, I think "references" is more common, at least in UK

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 years ago

Я давно исправила, но кто может поручиться за техническую сторону Лингво?

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Это уж точно... 😁

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

+++Anastasia

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

So is it letters of recommendation or references?

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

AFAIK it's "reference" in UK that means both a letter and a person who can be asked to provide "references" (not necessarily in form of a letter)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

That’s also REFERENCES in the US, as opposed to a letter of recommendation, which is one that contains someone’s opinion of you as an employee. REFERENCES is simply a list of the places you’ve worked with a phone number provided.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

List of places can be long.
Normally only 2-3 references/referees are required
"Referees: Give the names, positions and addresses of the two persons who have enclosed sealed references in support of your application who have knowledge of your ability to undertake the proposed study. If you have not enclosed references it is your responsibility to ensure these are sent to the University, as we do not contact referees on your behalf"

I am not sure why referEEs, not referERs

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Hmmmm, in that context, it doesn’t look like this is job related. It looks a like prospective student applying to a program and being referred officially by the faculty of his present/previous university.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

I don't see much difference.

Other examples:
"Professional References. Please give details of two referees, one should be your current or most recent employer, relatives and friends should not be used as references."
"References (including your current or most recent employer). Referees are normally approached before interview. Please tick the box below if you wish to be consulted."
(Job application forms)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

The difference is that REFERENCES for work are not in the form of a sealed letter. The are a list - usually appearing at the bottom or back of your resume and are provided at the same time as your resume. Some people choose not to include them and write “references upon request“ somewhere on the resume.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

So, if it's a job application, then
on request / referees - references;
enclosed (sealed or not) - letters of recommendation, recommendation letters

??

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Sorry, I didn’t understand your question. When applying for a job, you present your resume including a list of references. Optionally, if you former employees liked you so much that they supplied you with a letter of recommendation upon leaving, you can present copies of those.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Universities require a referral from your present university when applying for a program or study. In order to be official, they have to be sent from the institution in a sealed envelope - you can’t deliver them yourself.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Yes, basically that's what I meant. Thanks.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Anytime)))

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

I don't see though why students can deliver them themselves, but job applicants cannot

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Students CAN’T deliver them to universities because they can forge them; Job applicants CAN and DO delivery them because they’re usually on the resume.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Well, this contradicts what I quoted above:
"Referees: Give the names, positions and addresses of the two persons who have enclosed sealed references in support of your application who have knowledge of your ability to undertake the proposed study. If you have not enclosed references it is your responsibility to ensure these are sent to the University, as we do not contact referees on your behalf"

Camilla Mandaevaдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

я конечно благодарна за то,что вы мне ответили
НО МОЖЕТЕ ПЕРЕПИСЫВАТЬСЯ НЕ ЗДЕСЬ,ЭТИ СООБЩЕНИЯ МНЕ УЖЕ НАДОЕЛИ ПРИХОДИТЬ ВСЕ ВРЕМЯ,СПАСИБО

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Yes, I understand that sealed envelopes don't make any sense when delivered by the applicant, but in all other cases they would be sealed anyway.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

Извините, Camilla , но для нас это самое удобное место. А вам очень легко просто игнорировать сообщения.

Camilla Mandaevaдобавил комментарий 6 years ago

конечно очень легко,когда каждое сообщение вибрирует и доставляет мне некоторые хлопоты

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 6 years ago

Grumbler, I’m kind of sick of this discussion too.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 years ago

I'm not yet.)) In Russian рекомендация (=отзыв) is a colloquial word for рекомендательное письмо. Google it and you'll see.
Камилла, мы пытаемся Вам помочь. Неужели Вам не всё равно, правильный у Вас перевод или нет?

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