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Maria Soshnikovaспросил перевод 4 years ago
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One trouble with EU as a whole is that what served a club of six or nine well enough no longer looks adequate for a club of 15. Let alone one of 20 or 25, especially one with so many responsibilities.

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    One trouble with the EU as a whole is that what served a club of six or nine well enough no longer looks adequate for a club of 15, let alone one of 20 or 25, especially one with so many new responsibilities.

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⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Uh-oh, I smell Russian English...

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Yep!!! https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01bUflrZ0smvybGR_tCO_a5zhzd5Q%3A1601474093100&ei=LY50X-3UBcuWsAXS75GYCw&q=%22One+trouble+with+EU+as+a+whole+is+that+what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.+Let+alone+one+of+20+or+25%2C+especially+one+with+so+many+responsibilities.%22&oq=%22One+trouble+with+EU+as+a+whole+is+that+what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.+Let+alone+one+of+20+or+25%2C+especially+one+with+so+many+responsibilities.%22&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1D7kAhY-5AIYMuqCGgBcAB4AIABbYgBbZIBAzAuMZgBAaABAqABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrAAQE&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwitn77zg5HsAhVLC6wKHdJ3BLMQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago
Yep!!!


Well, well ...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&ei=pq10X7KPHoXnxgPLl5uIBw&q=%22what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.%22&oq=%22what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.%22&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1DGJVjpNmC9OmgAcAB4AIABdogB1AGSAQMxLjGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiy-sb1oZHsAhWFs3EKHcvLBnEQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

3rd result from the top.
The thing is that the majority of such texts in these Russian textbooks in fact originate from foreign sources.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Agreed! The difference is that that the original sources are in correct English, with articles and punctuation intact, and the Russian versions are like this post. I’ve learned to spot them miles away.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Yes, and if you look at your link, all those sites are Russian!

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

Well, at least "the" is missing in the original too.
I have to admit, it was one long sentence in the original indeed.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

Yes, deleted that comment.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Actually, the original has “the EU.” It wouldn’t be English without it. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&ei=pq10X7KPHoXnxgPLl5uIBw&q=%22what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.%22&oq=%22what+served+a+club+of+six+or+nine+well+enough+no+longer+looks+adequate+for+a+club+of+15.%22&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1DGJVjpNmC9OmgAcAB4AIABdogB1AGSAQMxLjGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiy-sb1oZHsAhWFs3EKHcvLBnEQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Personally, I’m surprised at the amount of energy you’ve put into trying to prove me wrong. Do you not trust my English?

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

You are right. My apologies.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Starting a sentence with LET ALONE is like starting one with НЕ ГОВОРЯ УЖЕ, which I don’t think makes sense in either language.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

Nothing to apologize for! These Runglish posts are disconcerting on every level... and you’re still one of my favorite people 😉

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

I trust YOUR English, but you often disagree even with native English writers. This time you were right, but Russians aren't the only ones that make errors.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

In Russian you can easily start a sentence with НЕ ГОВОРЯ *УЖ* - if it was preceded by a pause.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

В интернете много примеров, в т.ч. в reverso.
+https://english-grammar.biz/dictionary/ru-en/не+говоря+уж+о.html
+ ..

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

I do often disagree with English writers, or more specifically, with their editors and the things they allow to pass as correct English. If you assume that everything that’s in print is perfect English, you’re doing yourself a big disservice. Quite aside from the fact that something written in another decade is not longer acceptable. The other day, I was reading a modern book where the author stated something to the effect of “Today’s youth must needs decide to make spirituality a part of their lives since less and less parents are instilling a spiritual culture in the home.” Must needs??? In this day and age? Nope! I don’t know who’s worse - the writer or his editor.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

So I guess I was referring to не говоря УЖЕ exclusively.

grumblerдобавил комментарий 4 years ago

ngram со мной не соглашается, но для меня "не говоря УЖЕ" звучит неестественно и во всех примерах, которые я вижу, означает то же самое, что и "не говоря уж".

Следует отметить, что результаты для "уже" почему-то в основном из околонаучных книг.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 4 years ago

👍🏼 interesting!

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