⁌ ULY ⁍добавил заметку 8 years ago

Goodbye, lingvo mafia
Enjoy translations

We would enjoy them more if you weren't doing them.

Lo siento, Uly. Ya muchos han hablado de ese chico. Los que no hablamos ni leemos ruso, casi no nos damos cuenta de esto. Pero sé que muchos han cuestionado su calidad en el trabajo. Espero alguien del equipo te conteste pronto. Abrazo. No pierdas esperanza, hay mucha gente rusa que te quiere y busca tus consejos para mejorar. :-)

Yefim, if by "mafia" you mean "people who actually KNOW the language", then yes, there are a bunch of us here and yes, we're happy to be the "Lingvo mafia".
And you, instead of being in total denial, could actually try and learn something from people here.

Have no ability to hear dead!

Gracias, Marissa :) No es un chico, es un viejo zángano que se las pasa poniendo traducciones atroces y luego dándose corazones con una cuenta aparte. Entre una cosa y otra, ha llegado a ser el Traductor No. 1 y parece que la administración del sitio no se da cuenta no les importa. A mí me da pena con los que están estudiando inglés y ven esos disparates y piensan que están correctos. Yo quiero seguir ayudando a los usuarios rusos, pero me da grima que ese tipo sea No. 1 y ahora con una medalla de oro.

Yefim, you're obviously a grown ass dude, but you behave like a school boy. Even your last comment shows how immature you are.

Uly, answering your question who replaced Natasha - I'm afraid nobody (at least the replacement person is not visible).
And this is not the first time when The Users raise their concerns - but we have never received any response...

It's unconscionable. This site could be so much fun, but it's a free-for-all. There should be a moderator to remove repeated posts, gauge the accuracy of translations, resolve disputes, and be the final editor of what makes in into the dictionary. We have powerhouse English translators like Olga, Aleh, Elena and Jane, and yet Yefim is the No.1 Translator! He can barely put together two words. There's just no sense of community because we need a point person. LingvoLive just doesn't seem to care.

sad but true...

Es una pena, Uly. Ya chequé su perfil y parece un hombre maduro. Pero quizá sea un perfil falso, también. No creo que un señor fuera tan grosero e irritante. Espero que la administración te conteste pronto.

"mafia": "people who actually KNOW the language and try to force their knowledge on artistic freethinking souls and crush any alternative vision of the language under their facist heel"
And to be serious for a change, I'm a little bit worried, that whoever comes (or in fact has come) to take Natasha's place (though they'll never be able to take her place in our hearts) would try to do something without actually knowing the local ecosystem. Like, I don't know, granting moderators rights to anyone with a gold medal or something.
I for one was overwhelmed by the amount of stupid questions, and got tired of looking for something interesting to translate. But someone had to translate all these "привет, как дела", and behold, forth came the man. But, you know, keep calm and carry on.

hi Igor,
where is the quotation coming from?

Hi, Oleg. from Olga, mostly, but extended, and I daresay improved by me. but it just could be in the dictionary

got it - thanks!

Igor, I totally love it! That's exactly how I feel 👍😄

just noticed - should it be fascist heel?

thank you, Olga. I guess you and me are here for about the same reasons =) though you're much more passionate about what you do.
We shall overcome, eventually.

of course it should, Oleg

I certainly hope I'm not the fascist heel in question. If so, touché.

you're not, Uly, and neither am I. But still some people think we are. Facts have never been able to stay in the way of forming opinions =)

oh yes...

oh yes...

ok, just checking :) I agree. The truth hurts. But even then, I always try to be very "lenient" by allowing for colloquial language, slang, "creative" syntax, etc. because I think language should be fun and I acknowledge that in the real world, people don't always speak "by the book." (Even though I can't abide the constant or unnecessary use of GONNA and WANNA - that drives me crazy!) My thing has never been to force grammaticality at the cost of sounding natural or idiomatic. Anything I prescribe in my corrections is something that I would actually say, as a native, and I would expect the same kinds of corrections to my Russian, for example.

Dear Uly!
Thank you very much for this note!
Your note isn't the first one, which is concerning this "translator".
But it is the first one, which is written in English language by person, who is native speaker.
Thank you very much for your position, buddy! The position of mine about
Yefim Yasnogorsky has always been the same as yours.

Maksim, thank you for your support. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I have nothing against Yefim personally, but I love this resource and hate to see it misrepresented.

"There should be a moderator to remove repeated posts, gauge the accuracy of translations, resolve disputes, and be the final editor of what makes in into the dictionary. We have powerhouse English translators and No.1 Translator is the person, who can barely put together two words. There's just no sense of community because we need a point person. LingvoLive just doesn't seem to care."
I've been saying the similar thoughts in Russian here. But administration seems to be not hearing my (and not only my!) words...
It is so sad to see how the site is turning into what it is turning into without moderation:(

I agree 100%. As far as English goes, I'm doing my best to be the unofficial moderator so there is at least someone to "teach" and make the necessary corrections so that people can actually learn from this site.

Thank you so much Uly for bringing this up for us ! "There should be a moderator to remove repeated posts, gauge the accuracy of translations, resolve disputes, and be the final editor of what makes in into the dictionary. We have powerhouse English translators and No.1 Translator is the person, who can barely put together two words. There's just no sense of community because we need a point person. LingvoLive just doesn't seem to care." - totally agreed! Lingvolive, heed to it plz!

Thank you, Xiaoqing!

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