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Gala Xспросила перевод 7 years ago
Как перевести? (ru-en)

Я пришел угостить тебя тортом.

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Контекст:

Сосед пришел к соседу с коробкой торта

в руках)

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    I come bearing cake

    Комментарий переводчика

    When bringing gifts, people often humorously say "I come bearing..." - especially if they're offered in apology for something: [knocking on friend's door] (A) <knock knock knock> (B) [opening door] Oh it's you! (A) I come bearing flowers... I'm soooo sorry for my behavior last night - I should never be allowed to drink again. Friends?

    Перевод добавил ⁌ ULY ⁍
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    I've come to bring you a cake

    Перевод добавил ⁌ ULY ⁍
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  3. 3.

    I came to treat you to a cake.

    Перевод добавил Alexander Аkimov
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Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

"I've came..." as a result, what do you think of, Alexander?

Alexander Аkimovдобавил комментарий 7 years ago

Perfect всегда подразумевает «уже». Здесь упор не на то, что «вот я уже здесь», а на цель прихода: угостить тортом.

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

Ok, may be you're right.
So, past simple as a fact, right)?
But what about...
It seems to me, "to treat you TO a cake"...
?

Alexander Аkimovдобавил комментарий 7 years ago

В случае сомнения на счёт перфекта вставьте already и посмотрите, что получится: I’ve ALREADY come to treat you with a cake. Получилось несколько нелепо. Или уже был договор, что сосед принесёт торт, но тогда почему угостить? Обещал угостить?
Но тут простая фраза: пришёл, чтобы угостить.
Does it make sense?😊

Alexander Аkimovдобавил комментарий 7 years ago

Sorry for the confusion😔

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

It's ok, Alex,
thank you for your help!☺

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

Uly, так значит все-таки "I've came"?
What about "I came..."
in this context?
Can I say "I came..." there?

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

... and thank you for your explanation about "I come bearing"👍

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

"I came" is a simple fact, "I've come" is an announcement. The perfect is used when you want to elevate something from a simple fact to a significant announcement: (Fact) I passed my exams. (Announcement) I've passed my exams. (finally!, thank God!). In this case, the speaker is announcing the reason for being at her neighbor's house - he isn't just coming over, he also brought cake(!).

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

👍🏼

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

Gala, it's "I've COME" (not CAME)

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

Also, TREAT usually means to pay for someone's food in a restaurant, etc. It can also mean to give someone something delicious to eat or drink, but we're using it less and less with that meaning.

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

One more thing - since one person usually doesn't eat a whole cake, it would be more correct to say "I came to treat you to cake" (not TO A CAKE).

Alexander Аkimovдобавил комментарий 7 years ago

Well, Uly, how about my translation with ‘to treat you to a cake’? I’ve never dealt with ‘to treat to’, just took it from dictionaries. And then, why do you use ‘cake’ without a/the?

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

Oh, exactly!😜
Of course, "I've come..." - I'd just mixed up the forms of the verb)
Thank you so much for interesting & useful explanation!

Alexander Аkimovдобавил комментарий 7 years ago

Thanks a Load, Uly!

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

Uly, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask about "I come bearing smth"...
If I didn't drink last night😀... and I just want to give a cake (a piece of cake) to my friend
(I mean - there is no guilty, I don't feel guilty towards my friend),
then...
is it correct to say - "I come bearing"?...

⁌ ULY ⁍добавил комментарий 7 years ago

Absolutely. It just lets people know that you have something for them.

Gala Xдобавила комментарий 7 years ago

Okay, clear)
Thank you again!👍

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