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Kyle Palmerasked for translation 8 years ago
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The teacher scolded the three young pupils.

User translations (3)

  1. 1.

    Учитель отчитал трех школьников младших классов.

    translation added by Талгат Мырзаханов
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  2. 2.

    Учитель отругал троих молодых учеников.

    translation added by Александр Шматько
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    Учитель отчитал троих младших учеников.

    translation added by Максим Козинский
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Discussion (17)

Kyle Palmeradded a comment 8 years ago

Thanks! What's троих? I thought it was три? Is that the genitive plural of три or is it трёх?

Александр Шматькоadded a comment 8 years ago

троих - genitive plural. For example: The three of us are going to have a safe date. У нас троих будет безопасное свидание.

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Kyle, right, it's genitive plural of ТРИ, but ТРЕХ is said about inanimate objects while ТРОИХ - about animated objects

Kyle Palmeradded a comment 8 years ago

Thank you, Elena. This just gets more and more confusing. The book says that the genitive plural is used for animate objects, but you're saying that the genitive plural трёх is used with inanimate objects. So you would say Я вижу трёх больших стола? (or столов?)

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Kyle, I'm very sorry for confusing you. I think I can't explain well. вижу три больших стола" - правильно. Троих - родительный падеж от слова "трое", а не "три".

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

"Трех" - genitive plural from "три" (both animated and unanimated)

Kyle Palmeradded a comment 8 years ago

I'm going to take a nap and maybe when I wake up, this will all start to make sense. Thanks for your help, Elena.

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Sorry again :). Russian is a difficult language.

Kyle Palmeradded a comment 8 years ago

Oh no, I'm just joking. I appreciate your help and I'll probably have more questions later if you don't mind. I'm preparing for a test.

Sergei ZeroUnderscoreOuadded a comment 8 years ago

@Kyle your example translates to винительный падеж (answers on questions кого/что?).
вижу трёх больших слонов" (*кого* я вижу?).
вижу три больших стола" (*что* я вижу?).
Трое - троих - only animate.
Три - трёх - both animate/inanimate.

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Спасибо, Sergey, Вы нас всех поправили с винительным падежом

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Нет, ни в коем случае, просто мы тут все родительный обсуждаем, а Вы так легко об'ьяснили

Kyle Palmeradded a comment 8 years ago

Thank you Sergey! So with animate nouns, you can optionally use три or трое, right? The professor said not to worry about трое for now, it won't be on the test. So that just leaves три, which has the accusative form три (things), трёх (people or animals), and the form трёх after prepositions like у, против, из-за, etc. Am I correct so far?

Sergei ZeroUnderscoreOuadded a comment 8 years ago

@Kyle you're welcome :)
And you're right: три стола; нет трёх столов; мы стоим у трёх столов.

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