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Михаил Бойкоasked for translation 8 years ago
How to translate? (ru-en)

предложение было рассчитано по старому курсу евро

User translations (2)

  1. 1.

    The offer was made based on an old Euro rate of exchange.

    translation added by ⁌ ULY ⁍
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  2. 2.

    The offer is based on the outdated euro exchange rate

    translation added by Elena Bogomolova
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Discussion (9)

Olivia Lowensteinadded a comment 8 years ago

Elena, you make it sound like there's only one rate of exchange - they change daily.

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Olivia, but the offer was based on some concrete old rate of exchange. Is this wrong??

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

If I don't know at what rate of exchange it is calculated I will use "a", and if I know it - "the". It depends on the situation and in this phrase it's not clear what is meant so both variants are correct. Do you agree?

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

One company made an offer to another company. And the other company comes back in 3 months and say ok, that they want to buy their products. And the first company explains that their offer was based on the rate of exchange which is no longer valid.

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 8 years ago

Elena, if I can step in - even in those situations you use A rate of exchange, because there are several. To give you an analogy, if someone tried to call you using a previous telephone number, you would say "I didn't get the call because he called me on an old number." I think the fact that you use THE OUTDATED is especially marked, because it makes it sound like there is only one. Also, remember the the "exclusive" interpretation of THE assumes that the listener also knows which rate of exchange.

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 8 years ago

In the example with the phone call, if you said THE OLD NUMBER, the listener would have to know what that number was.

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 8 years ago

Hi, Uly! Thank you. Coming back to the rates of exchange - do you think there can't be a situation when this old rate of exchange is known to both parties?

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 8 years ago

Yes, but it wouldn't necessarily be the rate of exchange itself, because by their nature, rates of exchange fluctuate. A more reasonable scenario would be one where there were two contracts - one with one rate of exchange and one with another. If you made reference to the rate of exchange in the first contract, you could say THE OLD RATE OF EXCHANGE, because then it's not about the fluctuating rates per se, but about the rate in second contract superseding that of the rate "frozen" in the first contract. I hope that makes sense to you - I know it's hard to grasp. Understanding the intricacies of the definite article is a tricky business. But this is just one of those cases that illustrates just how pivotal it is in the anglophones psyche.

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