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максим грековasked for translation 6 years ago
How to translate? (en-ru)

Geraldine was none the less astonished

User translations (1)

  1. 1.

    Но это нисколько (/ни в малейшей степени) на развеяло сомнения Джералдина

    translation added by grumbler
    Gold en-ru
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Discussion (23)

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Grumbler, this is actually correct with “none the less.” It belongs to the pattern “none the +[comparative]”: Even though Mr. Harrington was a millionaire, upon his death, his children were none the richer since he left all his money to his second wife. -or- I took $20 from the cookie jar before my mother counted the money, so she was none the wiser. -or- He became convinced that his illness was purely imaginary: that made it none the better.

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

была поражена не в меньшей степени?
Сам добавляй.

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

I don’t know how to say this in Russian. It means that she wasn’t astonished before, and this time nothing changed - she was still not astonished.

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

не понял...
none the richer - не богаче ?
none the better - не лучше ?
none the less - не БОЛЬШЕ ? (astonished than before)

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

- не меньше

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Все это, чтобы сказать, что она осталась равнодушной.

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

тогда не получается
поражена НЕ МЕНЬШЕ, чем раньше
значит, была сильно поражена и сейчас поражена так же или больше
??

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Так же = по-прежнему совсем не поражена

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

Не, мне это не понять.
А почему не "Так же = по-прежнему поражена "?
Если раньше была "совсем не поражена" и сейчас тоже, то имеет смысл сказать, что сейчас поражена НЕ БОЛЬШЕ, чем раньше.

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Because they must have use LITTLE previously: When she read the proposal, she was little astonished at how much the city would benefit from the project and demanded a review. When she read the revised proposal, she was none the less astonished: the new figures indicated that the city stood to benefit even more than in the first proposal.

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

was little impressed by the figures (not impressed)
now she isn't impressed again = impressed NOT MORE than she was before.

There is something here that I can't grasp. Can it be something like, say, double negative in Russian, that is illogical and impossible to understand logically?

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

It’s hard to define - the writer is being somewhat sarcastic.

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

I give up... At least until the morning.

"The Colonel breathed again. If Mr. Malthus had frequented the place for two years there could be little danger for the Prince in a single evening. But Geraldine was none the less astonished, and began to suspect a mystification."

"Полковник вздохнул с облегчением. Если мистер Мальтус целых два года посещает этот притон, то навряд ли принца ожидает опасность в первый же вечер. Впрочем, Джеральдин терялся в догадках. Уж не водят ли их с принцем за нос?"
http://librebook.me/the_suicide_club/vol1/1

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Ah, good, a context. This means that on the one hand, he was relieved to see that someone who had been coming to the club for two years was alright, but was, ALL THE SAME, astonished... This is an old way of saying “was no less astonished.”

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

но и так был (все же?) поражен (??)

grumbleradded a comment 6 years ago

Не знаю. Мне кажется, значение просто такое же, как и у nonetheless/nevertheless
Т.е., да - все же, все-таки, тем не менее, однако, несмотря на это, впрочем

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

There’s a difference. “Nonetheless“ is a conjunction like any other. However, “none the less” and “no less” are used to describe the degree to which someone is astonished, surprised, angered, moved, etc.

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

“Even though my son came in second at the swim meet, I was none the less/no less proud of him.“

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Just know that in modern English, we don’t use “none the less,” we use “no less.”

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