Pink Peonyadded a note 3 years ago

@Alex Wall, а будет книга)?

Hi Pink! If you don’t mind, I’ll answer your question WITHOUT watching the video — I can’t stand watching Justin, much less hearing him speak!

To start off with, I think Russian is difficult for anyone because it’s such a “grammatical” language. Cases are mind-boggling to most people and I was no exception. So the first hurdle in learning Russian for me was getting used to cases. But after about a year, I got the hang of it and it was actually quite sensible.

So then I started using my Russian in chatrooms and Lingvo, for instance, and I was told that the words and expressions I had learned in books and dictionaries were (1) not used anymore; (2) too formal; (3) too informal… to the point that I was afraid to write anything 🤯 So my solution was to read comments on here and only use words and phrases that I saw from all of you. And if I had a doubt about something I saw somewhere else, I would simply post a question on here.

Now, ten years in, my only difficulty is, naturally, speaking because I only speak Russian on the rare occasion that someone doesn't want to speak English; and I still have problems with register -- knowing what words belong to what style of speech or writing.

@Uly, amm)).. I'm really sorry about Justin. Who could know that you've already seen his videos and moreover, you didn't like his speak! 😅
I came across his channel by accident and I was a bit flabbergasted because he told about grammar issues I had never mulled over before.
For instane, I'd never thought why a fork "лежит", but a glass and a plate "стоят" before I stumbled upon it.
Pretty difficult to get the logic, honestly. Even for me)

You know, your hard-working labour and the obviously-achieved tangible result are на грани невозможного)
I can't even imagine how difficult it was (and is 🙃).
JUST GREAT👍

Thank you for your thorough answer!🌿

That's right, I've never thought about the things Justin spoke. Somehow we know/use it automatically.

Thank you, pink!

In English, we also say that forks or spoons or pencils lay on the table, and vertical objects can stand on the table. It makes perfect sense.

That's clear, but what about a plate, a pan?...
Also I've realised I've never thought about "птица сидит на ветке") Why is it "сидит"? It stands on it! Seriously! Oh, the grammar🧐...

Plates and pans and things with flat “asses” SIT on surfaces.

A plate is sitting on the table?...
Я серьезно, я просто не очень хорошо знаю английские выражения, которые касаются быта.

Я тоже нет))

Yes, a plate is sitting on the table. “Her children finish eating and just leave their plates sitting on the table.”

@Uly Marrero,
да ладно!😅
Я надеюсь, вы имели в виду русские выражения, которые касаются быта)

@Uly Marrero,
Yes, a plate is sitting on the table.
Господи😳
...
Знаете что, тогда в плане грамматики мы квиты!
1:1😅

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22plate+sitting+on+the+table%22

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22glass+standing+on+the+table%22&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk02IRhCb_yjyvMZUOqiQymfLRDrM0A%3A1626455210890&ei=qrzxYPnhNbDRwbkP0tessAU&oq=%22glass+standing+on+the+table%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...9545.12823.0.13094.16.11.5.0.0.0.147.1070.7j4.11.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0....0.6BZ1M7BVzuo

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22pencil+lying+on+the+table%22&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk00V7CUOQNOI24DtgWKxpp-KBxI3Fg%3A1626455255521&ei=17zxYLuwH9GWwbkPubWosAU&oq=%22pencil+lying+on+the+table%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3113.3113.0.3375.1.1.0.0.0.0.88.88.1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.lzcd9VuWuNg

👍🏼😜

Спасибо, что хоть карандаш лежит😏, как в русском языке.
Но это же теперь каждый предмет надо проверять - он лежит, стоит, "сидит" на столе?
Божечки🤕

😆

каждый предмет НЕ надо проверять - лежит, стоит, сидит...
Важно знать, что стоит это лучше, чем лежит ))