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Алина Гюнтерasked for translation 6 years ago
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proper sense of the word

User translations (5)

  1. 1.

    в правильном значении слова

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  2. 2.

    in the proper sense of the word

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    в истинном значении слова

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    в ПРАВИЛЬНОМ смысле слова

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    in the proper sense of the word

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    в собственном смысле слова

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  5. 5.

    in the proper sense of the word

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    в прямом (буквальном) смысле слова

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Discussion (17)

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

PROPER means CORRECT here

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

в правильном смысле слова - так не говорят

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

https://www.google.com/search?ei=NNutXKnlJc6atgXfrZ5w&q=%22%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5+%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%22&oq=%22%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5+%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...53262.60475..60755...1.0..0.156.2791.21j7......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i7i30j0i7i10i30j0i131j0j35i39j0i7i30i19j0i203j0i30j0i8i7i30j0i8i30j33i299j33i10.tnYz__atA8I

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

Странно. Но это публикации 2017-2019 годов. Возможно, это калька с английского
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5+%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%2C+%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5+%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=25&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2C%D0%B2%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BC%20%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%20%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%3B%2Cc0

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Alina, in English “the proper sense of the word” means “according to the correct meaning of the word (in question)”

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

In the proper sense means - в прямом, не в переносном.
В прямом is the same as в правильном, only it's not correct to say в правильном смысле слова. It's not good Russian.

Alex Svadded a comment 6 years ago

точное /правильное ЗНАЧЕНИЕ слова

⁌ ULY ⁍added a comment 6 years ago

Спасибо, Алекс!

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

но не правильном значении слова"

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=истинном+значении+слова%2Cсобственном+значении+слова%2Cбуквальном+значении+слова%2C+правильном+значении+слова%2C+прямом+значении+слова&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=25&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cистинном значении слова%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cсобственном значении слова%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cбуквальном значении слова%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cпрямом значении слова%3B%2Cc0

Alex Svadded a comment 6 years ago

А откуда вообще взялось это "в"?

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

ну да, справедливо спрашиваете. Мне кажется, что чаще это выражение используется с in the, поэтому я добавила

Alex Svadded a comment 6 years ago

у них in the, а у нас - по контексту должно быть

Elena Bogomolovaadded a comment 6 years ago

у всех по контексту)

Alex Svadded a comment 6 years ago

Я подразумевал перевод на русский "in the". ))

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